what karkat said what?? what the fuck oh my god no that is a million times WRONG IM SO FUCKING MAD THAT GUY IS SUCH SHIT! fucking making karkat think ANY of that was his fault fuck FUCK that guy ok new rule dont listen to karkat hes fucking braindead heres what actually happened
karkat calms gamzee out of a mental break and probably saves his life gamzee then ignores the SHIT out of karkat for three years all hiding in the vents and sneaking around with terezi and making them both feel like absolute shit about themselves until they cant hardly think since kanayas busy with rose and terezi and karkats matespritship whatever broke down even before i landed on scene this leaves karkat ALONE which is such a shitty thing to do to a guy who only ever did his best to take care of everybody i cant even EXPRESS how goddamn terrible gamzee is and he did SUCH fuckawful things to karkat even besides that like betrayal on this scale just isnt even measurable and karkat still thinks hes responsible for that dude shitting on him??? god fucking dammit bro
what the why did he DO that??? why would he be so Karkat's done so MUCH for him so why would he just turn around and fuck everything up?!
YES Karkat was saying he didn't notice warning signs and I god I can't say it didn't remind me of certain things but that doesn't mean I relationships take two people that's what I told him because he didn't want to hear anything GOOD about it but if he did everything he could to help like I am sure he DID then none of this is on Karkat none of ANYTHING that jerk did
im trying to figure out why hed even god i guess if hes still kicking his own ass about what happened with his friends before we got there? like the events leading up to gamzees flipping out and other shit in the first place like jesus thats probably it i think he said as much to me and i missed it but thats all crap that happened before i got there so even if you asked ash i wouldnt know what to say about it beyond that karkat was the leader of the trolls session and he got all twelve of them through to the end and then everything shat on him in the worst way and he was only six sweeps old he was only thirteen
fuck i ive been TRYING but i wasnt there and i fundamentally just dont get a lot of things about how his world works so i dunno when i say shit its easy for him to shrug it off
then maybe we just can't let him say those things I I know I don't know everything and this is all knew to me and I didn't see but god he told me not to talk to him anymore about it too fuck
if he just could feel like he had a success a moiraillegiance where he feels like he did the right thing even though he didn't FAIL since he feels like he did and until then just watch and listen comfort him when we can
if another troll were here one of the non shitty ones anyway like maybe kanaya or fuck i dont know even terezi or one of the dead ones they could goddamn tell him the business because i refuse to believe karkat vantas did anything wrong
i mean yeah we all kind of had one troll we were closest to and karkat was hers but she didnt live with them for three years like me and rose did so she just doesnt have as much exposure it might not work out
oh they can reconnect here at least? or I'm not sure what to tell him but maybe then you have the best shot at making him feel something other than this
ashley im not good at feelings shit for maybe obvious reasons what im saying is circumstances have left me the emotional range of a decapitated chicken i dont want to make it worse for him with my clumsy ass empathetically stunted bumblefuckery
I don't know Dave I'm kind of trying to do that myself figure out how to not be that but god dammit we're just fucking teenagers this isn't fair we shouldn't
okay okay okay okay he does he ever talk about this stuff with you? all this bullshit about this Gamzee guy?
not really? sort of a little but hell i dont know ashley theres just so much that happened to us and i already made him cry trying to help with other shit last week
it it's hard but shit I don't know I'm just trying to go off what I DIDN'T do so healthy communication that that's supposed to be how to help but if it just upsets him more
oh my god im actually the least qualified person in the world for this shit fuck maybe ill just wake him up at the first fart of dawn and get him to cry it out again he seemed to think that was a legitimate strategy last month
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karkat said what??
what the fuck oh my god no that is a million times WRONG
IM SO FUCKING MAD THAT GUY IS SUCH SHIT! fucking making karkat think ANY of that was his fault
fuck
FUCK that guy
ok new rule dont listen to karkat hes fucking braindead
heres what actually happened
karkat calms gamzee out of a mental break and probably saves his life
gamzee then ignores the SHIT out of karkat for three years all hiding in the vents and sneaking around with terezi and making them both feel like absolute shit about themselves until they cant hardly think
since kanayas busy with rose and terezi and karkats matespritship whatever broke down even before i landed on scene this leaves karkat ALONE
which is such a shitty thing to do to a guy who only ever did his best to take care of everybody i cant even
EXPRESS
how goddamn terrible gamzee is
and he did SUCH fuckawful things to karkat even besides that
like betrayal on this scale just isnt even measurable
and karkat still
thinks hes responsible for that dude shitting on him???
god fucking dammit bro
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why did he DO that???
why would he be so
Karkat's done so MUCH for him so why would he just turn around and fuck everything up?!
YES Karkat was saying he didn't notice warning signs and I
god I can't say it didn't remind me of certain things but that doesn't mean I
relationships take two people that's what I told him because he didn't want to hear anything GOOD about it
but if he did everything he could to help like I am sure he DID then none of this is on Karkat none of ANYTHING that jerk did
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god
i guess if hes still kicking his own ass about what happened with his friends before we got there?
like the events leading up to gamzees flipping out and other shit in the first place
like
jesus thats probably it i think he said as much to me and i missed it
but thats all crap that happened before i got there so even if you asked ash i wouldnt know what to say about it beyond that
karkat was the leader of the trolls session
and he got all twelve of them through to the end
and then everything shat on him in the worst way and he was only six sweeps old
he was only thirteen
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oh
oh my god
oh no
what do we do?
we can't just leave him in this
this horrible place
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what can i do
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I don't know HOW but we have to help him
help him feel like he's not just this horrible person who failed everyone
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ive been TRYING
but i wasnt there and i fundamentally just dont get a lot of things about how his world works so
i dunno when i say shit its easy for him to shrug it off
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we just can't let him say those things I
I know I don't know everything and this is all knew to me
and I didn't see but
god he told me not to talk to him anymore about it too
fuck
if he just could feel like he had a success
a moiraillegiance where he feels like he did the right thing even though he didn't FAIL since he feels like he did
and until then just watch and listen
comfort him when we can
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one of the non shitty ones anyway
like maybe kanaya
or fuck i dont know even terezi or one of the dead ones
they could goddamn tell him the business
because i refuse to believe karkat vantas did anything wrong
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if not
what about Jade? would he listen to her?
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yeah
we all kind of had one troll we were closest to and karkat was hers
but she didnt live with them for three years like me and rose did so she just doesnt have as much exposure
it might not work out
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they can reconnect here at least?
or
I'm not sure what to tell him
but maybe then you have the best shot at making him feel
something other than this
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me?
thats
ashley im not good at feelings shit
for maybe obvious reasons
what im saying is circumstances have left me the emotional range of a decapitated chicken
i dont want to make it worse for him with my clumsy ass empathetically stunted bumblefuckery
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I know
I mean
I kind of
got some of that but you
the one who has the best shot at helping him is his best friend
that's you
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or possibly terror
im not sure
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do you deny it?
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no
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and if there's anything his other friends can do I'm sure we will
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i really want him to be not fucked up
how do we get to be not fucked up
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I'm kind of
trying to do that myself figure out how to not be that but
god dammit we're just fucking teenagers this isn't fair
we shouldn't
okay
okay okay okay
he
does he ever talk about this stuff with you? all this
bullshit about this Gamzee guy?
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really?
sort of a little but
hell i dont know ashley theres just so much that happened to us and i already made him cry trying to help with other shit last week
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it's hard but
shit I don't know
I'm just trying to go off what I DIDN'T do
so healthy communication that
that's supposed to be how to help but if it just upsets him more
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fuck maybe ill just wake him up at the first fart of dawn and get him to cry it out again he seemed to think that was a legitimate strategy last month
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is there anyone we can ask for advice on this
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a grownup?
most of the grownups i know here are awkward and hilarious space soldiers
[Or literal Cain from the Bible.]
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